what to tow a keystone bullet 278rls with

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Ant&Deb

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Hi All

Just a little bit of advice please, we have sold out Wildcat 5th & our GMC 2500 GMC.

We are looking at buying a keystone bullett 2010 278rls travel trailer.

Could you please suggest a vehicle for toe as i am confused, with the 7 meter rule

Many Thanks

Ant & Debs
 

Pete45

Member
Hi, i would say the best man to ask about that,would be Stanfreeman,has he got one,he is a member on here,if i was you.pm him and he will let you all need to know about the Bullett .hope this help.:thumbup:

Pete and Shirl :001_smile:
 
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Ant&Deb

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Hi

Thanks for the info its stans we are thinking of buying. He says he tows his with a merc ml. But as i understand it for a trailer over 7 meters your tow vehilce must be 3500kg plus which i dont imagine the merc or any 4 x 4 are,

Cheers
:001_smile:
 
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Shane&Vanessa

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7 meter rule or 12 meters if towed by a vehicle over 3500kg GVW ?? or am I wrong??
 
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Shane&Vanessa

Guest
sorry last post was being written as ant replied so I did not see it.

But I had a merc ML which Gross vehicle weight was 2750 kg

Your GMC 2500 would have been fine but a Ford Excursion would be better what with more rear weight, sadly a bit juicy with either a 6.8 V10 or 7.3 Powerstroke V8 diesel as the 5.4 is VERY underpowered, weight is 3504 kg
 
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vwalan

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hi landy why do i keep shouting about b+e pre 97 licences for getting round the 70 yr old hassle. local vosa do know and understand it. dvla do as well ,depends who you speak to. an early b+e as a greater train than an above 3.5 because of the restriction 107. b+e doesnt have it.
anyway over 3.5 for towing a large trailer. over 7m length.
get a bigger than 3.5ton truck lower its gvw .it can be driven on car licence but keeps the higher train weight. doesnt help ant on this one but worth remembering.
mine can be adapted to suit and then run a 9.8ton train on a car licence. pre 97.
the pages grizzly put up are on dft web page for all to view. cheers alan.
 
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upmarkethippy

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over length?!

Hello all,

This is just an experiance of mine, not sure it will help any.....

I was towing a 40foot travel trailer with my Land rover 130 (mgw 3,500kgs. max permissable towing 3,500kgs). I broke down with the trailer attatched, the police came by to check all was ok. They had a good chat about the vehicle and the trailer but were in no way worried about the length of it all.
They did do a vehicle check so were happy.

Now, I do have the Land rover registered as a commercial vehicle as at the time you could not tow 8 foot wide unless the vehicle was as commercial.
You can register a vehicle as commercial from 3,000 kgs.
So the 12 meter rule may also apply if it is behind a commercial vehicle.
I own a Thor, Citation travel trailer that is 33 foot long with A frame and hooked onto my Land rover this gives me a total of 49 foot. I have been checked a couple of times by police whilst on the road and they never seemed to be bothered. Rig has a total train weight of about 7 tons too.

Happy travels
 
Hello all,

This is just an experiance of mine, not sure it will help any.....

I was towing a 40foot travel trailer with my Land rover 130 (mgw 3,500kgs. max permissable towing 3,500kgs). I broke down with the trailer attatched, the police came by to check all was ok. They had a good chat about the vehicle and the trailer but were in no way worried about the length of it all.
They did do a vehicle check so were happy.

Now, I do have the Land rover registered as a commercial vehicle as at the time you could not tow 8 foot wide unless the vehicle was as commercial.
You can register a vehicle as commercial from 3,000 kgs.
So the 12 meter rule may also apply if it is behind a commercial vehicle.
I own a Thor, Citation travel trailer that is 33 foot long with A frame and hooked onto my Land rover this gives me a total of 49 foot. I have been checked a couple of times by police whilst on the road and they never seemed to be bothered. Rig has a total train weight of about 7 tons too.

Happy travels
I think that the police proberly have no idea of the length restrictions etc, thats why you may have got away with towing overlength, as far as i know (i stand to be corrected) you cannot tow any trailer over 7m in length unless the drawing vehicle has a gross weigth in excess of 3.5t, therefore with your 3.5 landrover you cannot tow any trailer over 7m. anything in excess if 7 m must have a drawing vehicle in excess of 3.5t gvw, ie say an Iveco van with gvw of 4.5t or 6t. Regards Garry Flatpackchicken
 

vwalan

Subscriber
hi nigel . there is alot of illegal trailers on the road.
7m not including the aframe and hitch for upto 3,500kg gvw vehicles.
the daftest thing is they can tow enormous weights .
specialy if you down plate something over the weight .
could be 10-12 ton train weight, but although they keep the train they dont keep the bigger width.
same vehicle regardless of its plated gvw.
i do think police and vosa turn a blind eye if it sort of looks right and doesnt look stupidly wrong.
had a good chat with vosa,s mot specialist the other weekabout this sort of thing . it was about upping the trailer weight of mine . or lowering the units gvw . the wide of mine is ok if i lower the unit.
but if i do it would need moting. if i raise the trailer weight .then the unit would need moting. so we decided best leave it as it is.
we also discussed the newer iveco daily,s you can take a 65c18 6,500kggvw lower it to3,50kg and keep the train of 10,000kg. the unit would still only weigh about2,500kg . that means the trailer could be three times the weight of the truck. and still be legal . but under 7ft 6ins /2,3mtr.width
all daft rules i know.
cheers alan
 
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sundowner

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Hi Alan
You can now legally tow 8ft wide with a car----at least there we have come inline with Europe :biggrin::biggrin:
Nigel
 

vwalan

Subscriber
yes you are right .changed in 2010. my fault looked at an old booklet. sorry . the 7m still stands though.
 
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